MIA’s Declaration of Independence? 9

Angus and Batya Wootten continue to reassert themselves as heads of the Messianic Israel Alliance in the wake of the departure of the majority of its teachers.

Scott Diffenderfer and several other MIA teachers, some of whom also were members of its leadership council, left the MIA at the beginning of the year to form the Messianic Covenant Community. There apparently were differences over the organization’s leadership structure as well as its emphasis.

That left the Woottens with the need to re-establish themselves as the MIA’s founders. It also looks like they’re trying to reassert their own emphases in theology and to clarify what they feel may be inaccurate or misrepresentative views of the MIA and its teachings.

Two recently released documents, “We Declare These Truths” and “The Messianic Israel Alliance is NOT a Two-House Organization,” seem aimed to clarify what the MIA and the Woottens stand for.

“We Declare These Truths,” with its allusion to the Declaration of Independence’s phrase “We hold these truths to be self-evident,” could almost stand as the MIA’s own declaration of independence, or re-declaration of such. It confirms essential doctrinal truths such as belief in the deity of Yeshua and the need for sinful man’s regeneration through His shed blood, but it continues on to restate the MIA’s distinctives. The “foundational” teachings that “Ephraim” and “Judah” are being brought back together and all of the ramifications of that constitutes the majority of the statement.

Some interesting aspects:

  • Most of the statement is given over to explaining their Israel/Ephraim/Judah beliefs and then dealing with the complications that arise out of those beliefs.
  • The Woottens’ concern for those who leave faith in Messiah and convert to nonmessianic Judaism. The Woottens lay this development in part to “a false claim that ‘non-Jewish Believers were not part of Israel.’”
  • The claim that “The above-described points of faith are not our focus, but part of our foundational understanding.” Yet, visit their “Our Hope” page, and you see a condensed form of most of the points in the document, so that’s kind of a confusing claim.
  • While they say that those points “are not our focus,” they don’t really say in the statement what their focus is.

I’ll talk about the “Two-House” statement in a later post.

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  • http://judahgabriel.blogspot.com Judah Gabriel Himango

    I’m glad they’re coming out boldly on the divinity issue. It’s been something discussed heavily in the last week in the Messianic blogosphere:

    I’d love to hear your take on this post, in which the question was posed whether a Jewish person is saved if he believes Jesus is Messiah but not God.

    That prompted me to write Jesus as Messiah-but-not-God doesn’t work, leads to apostasy. And James Pyles followed up with a post that says he is now uncertain whether Yeshua should be worshiped.

    I’d like to hear your take on that.

    • http://www.cornertassel.com Mike Miller

      If Jesus isn’t God, then how can His sacrificial death achieve anything? Only if He is God can His death achieve infinite forgiveness.

      I haven’t read James’ take on the worship issue yet.

      • http://judahgabriel.blogspot.com Judah Gabriel Himango

        I’d recommend reading it. Enlightening. Some of the comments explore what it means if Yeshua is not God and shouldn’t be worshiped: The Blood of the Prince.

        • http://dailyminyan.com Gene Shlomovich

          Mike… great reporting on the TH developments. I love the way you present the facts.

          “If Jesus isn’t God, then how can His sacrificial death achieve anything? Only if He is God can His death achieve infinite forgiveness.”

          I would like to make sure some people do not twist my post in any way. The question WAS NOT and IS NOT about proving or disproving Yeshua’s divinity (and I specifically make this disclaimer in the post), but rather if a person for whatever reason doesn’t believe that Yeshua=G-d but still believes that he’s indeed the Messiah through whom G-d saves – is that person still saved?

          Judah has already answered on his own blog that indeed, he himself believes that G-d can save a person who doesn’t believe that Jesus=G-d but “only” the Messiah.

          What do you think?

          • http://www.cornertassel.com Mike Miller

            Gene, thanks.

            My answer to your question is, “I don’t know.” I can share what I believe about His deity with those who doubt it, but ultimately that’s between them and the Lord as to whether they will still be saved.

            I think really good arguments can be made on both sides of the question. It could even technically come down to what’s required for salvation: Repentance and belief that His death atoned for all of the sins of those who accept Him? If that’s the case, then, no, belief in His deity isn’t necessary. If we start requiring assent to very narrow interpretations of doctrine as a requirement for salvation, then we could be guilty of adding on to what God requires.

            On the other hand, I don’t see how the death of a man like you and me can ultimately atone for all of our sins. If I’m believing in only a human’s sacrifice … I still don’t see how it works.

          • http://dailyminyan.com Gene Shlomovich

            Thanks, Mike. Ultimately, I don’t think that fully understanding G-d or Messiah, or having a grasp of some “perfect” doctrine is what will matter most.

            G-d could have saved mankind through a death of a man who was totally sinless (like Adam was before he fell). After all, G-d can do whatever He wants – He chooses the method of salvation that satisfies Him and Him alone. Ultimately, however, Messiah is far more connected to G-d than Adam ever was, indeed G-d indwells the Messiah through mystical Sonship in the way than we may never fully understand. He gave Messiah authority over everything in the Universe. Makes my head spin just thinking about it.

  • http://www.cornertassel.com Mike Miller

    Will do. I’m still working through Stu Dauermann’s “New Perspectives on Paul” series. :)

    • http://judahgabriel.blogspot.com Judah Gabriel Himango

      Oh, you’ll be ready by December then? ;-)

      (What was that, a 16 part series? I have to admit I wasn’t able to make it through all of it, even as spectacular as the first few were.)

      • http://www.cornertassel.com Mike Miller

        “Oh, you’ll be ready by December then?”

        HAH!